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LIVE : Scarborough Council Vote on Demolishing Futurist

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1:10pm 9th January 2017
(Updated 4:26pm 9th January 2017)

Live coverage of the full meeting of Scarborough Borough Council where a decision on whether or not to demolish the Futurist Theatre is to be taken.

4:26pm

Patricia David from the Save the Futurist group speaks after the announcement to Jon Burke.

 

 

4:02pm

For - 22, Against - 21, Abstention - 1

The motion is carried 

3:59pm

The recorded vote is now underway

3:54pm

Cllr Siddons says he is not interested in a delay in order to allow any group to come up with a plan for revamping the theatre - he says he needs more time to get further information on the plan the council are proposing.

3:51pm

Cllr Mallory says the £4m allocated for the demolition work is not available for revamping the theatre. If today's proposal is not approved the Theatre will be left standing with minimal maintenance. The money will be used for maintaining the building, making it safe and any cliff work required. 

3:49pm

Cllr Mallory is interrupted by a member of the public who is threatened with removal from the chamber.

3:47pm

Cllr Chance says he has "little faith" in the Save the Futurist group being able to find a viable plan. He says councillors must consider the whole borough and not just Scarborough.

3:44pm

Cllr Chance says that the income figures are wildly optimistic.

3:42pm

Cllr David Chance says the Futurist has severe structural limitations stopping it being used as a theatre, he says he has not seen any solid business plan for running as a theatre describing the Save the Futurist figures as "pure guesswork".

3:39pm

Cllr Chatt says he has been swamped by comments from people who say they don't want money to spent on the Futurist

3:37pm

Cllr Chatt says he doesn't know how many people attended the theatre in it's last three years as the data was never made available to councillors.

3:35pm

Cllr Bill Chatt says the last show he attended at the Futurist had nine people in the audience.

3:34pm

Cllr Sam Cross says he feels he doesn't have enough information about what financial return the borough will get from a deal with Flamingoland, he says more detail is needed. He calls for the Save the Futurist group to be given a chance to applause from the public gallery.

3:25pm

Cllr Inman says the focus should be on the council proposal which has been many years in the making and not on last minute plans from the Save the Futurist group.

3:23pm

Cllr Vanda Inman calls for a yes/no decision and not a deferment.

3:20pm

Cllr Jeffels calls for support for the Spa, the Open Air Theatre and the SJT rather than revamping the Futurist as a theatre.

3:20pm

Cllr David Jeffels highlights a number of expert reports that have concluded the theatre is unsustainable as an entertainment venue, saying some of the performances in it's dying days saw audiences of 25-30 people.

3:14pm

Cllr Backhouse "once something has gone it can't be bought back" he says there are other sites that could be developed.

3:12pm

Cllr Andrew Backhouse suggests that spending £4m on the Futurist site would limit the ability to spend on other development opportunities in the borough.

3:09pm

Mrs Lisa Dixon has spoken to confirm that there are no restrictive covenants on the Futurist Deeds.

3:07pm

Cllr Gerald Dennett says the piers in Whitby need £3m to make them safe and protect several hundred properties. He says the council consider the piers a higher risk than the futurist and questions spending £4m on the Futurist site.

3:06pm

Cllr Jefferson calls for a deferment today.

3:05pm

Cllr Janet Jefferson says she believes there was a covenant included in the Futurist's deeds when the council bought it in 1986 which required the council to continue running the venue as a theatre for 80 year. Cllr Jefferson says this needs further investigation.

2:53pm

Cllr Colin Haddington says demolishing the Futurist would be a waste of £4m - he says if the motion is passed then the council needs a new cabinet.

2:49pm

Cllr Murphy calls for at least another three months to get everyone's views.

2:48pm

Cllr Murphy says demand for theatre is increasing, he says the purchase of the mermaid site opens the possibility of improving set access at the site and that bigger theatre shows could be bought in.

2:45pm

Cllr Norman Murphy says there will a loss of culture and heritage if the theatre is pulled down. He claims the council has not properly maintained the building over the last 20 years.

2:44pm

Cllr Bastiman says the council has been discussing the Futurist since 1996

2:41pm

Cllr Bastiman says the process has not been rushed through, he calls for a decision today not a deferment.

2:41pm

Cllr Eric Broadbent says there is no rush to make a decision and that ore time should be taken.

2:39pm

Cllr Vine Cluer calls for today's vote to be a recorded vote. That would mean councillors having to publically declare which way they vote. The call for a recorded vote is supported by sufficient councillors and will go ahead.

2:38pm

Cllr Vine Cluer says there has been insufficient time for her and other councillors to read the vast quantity of information provided last week.

2:37pm

Cllr Dilys Vine Cluer says that councillors received a large volume of documents about the proposal on Wednesday last week, which were difficult to open on a tablet.

2:32pm

Cllr Siddons questions how democratic decisions taken so far have been. Arguing that full council rather than cabinet should be making the decisions and have access to all the facts. He receives a round of applause from the public gallery. 

2:30pm

Cllr Siddons says councillors don't know if there are other viable alternatives for the site or what the dangers might be involved in the  cliff stabilisation work.

2:28pm

Cllr Steve Siddons, leader of the Labour group, expresses disappointment that there has been a lack of detail provided councillors about the proposals and a lack of assurance about the financial return.

2:26pm

The debate is now starting following on from the initial statements.

2:18pm

Cllr Mike Cockerill says safety of adjacent properties has been of prime concern when developing plans for the demolition and stabilisation works

2:16pm

£4m will be needed for the demolition works and the cliff stabilisation work. £2.5m from existing funds. £1.5m would need to be borrowed. Cllr Mallory says that after demolition the land would continue to be owned by the council and any future sale of the land would be at market rates at the time.

2:15pm

Cllr Helen Mallory is talking about some of the financial issues surrounding the proposal. "There is no agreement to sell the site for £600,000" to Flamingoland or anyone else

2:13pm

Talking about the proposal from the Save the Futurist group to have more time to come up with a business plan Cllr Bastiman says he feels 'we have been here before' he says that experts have told him the '11th hour interventions' are without substance and that the theatre continues to be unsustainable.

2:10pm

Cllr Derek Bastiman is opening the discussion

2:10pm

The Futurist discussion is starting now.

2:08pm

The Futurist discussion has been moved up from item 8 to item 6 on the agenda.

2:07pm

Councillors are being reminded to limit any speeches they make to 5 minutes in duration.

2:06pm

2:05pm

The meeting is just starting.

1:26pm

The marchers are on their way....

1:16pm

There's a suggestion that the discussion about the Futurist Theatre might be moved up the agenda this afternoon, it was due to be item 8. We'll let you know if we can confirm that.

1:14pm

Save The Futurist campaigners met at the Railway Station before marching to Scarborough Town Hall.

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